How do you define local?
If you live there, you’re local! However, coming from a place where some of my work has been misunderstood, the last thing that I want to do is define who is local or not. I’ve been accused of not being local because of the things I do. I run a coffee shop. Why? Because people said they wanted a coffee shop, we like good coffee, and we like nice things so we built it. It’s all about intentions and execution. Noelle put chandeliers in The Lit.Bar. She wanted it to look a particular way and people respond to how beautiful it is. If that’s considered bougie then there are Black and Latino people who can be bougie. Why would we go and experience it someplace else? That’s local. Her class is local, her quality is local, it’s all local. You can’t call that anything but the Bronx as far as I’m concerned.
Do you see the business model of the Boogie Down Grind café extending past the context of Hunts Point? How could other business owners in other parts of the country do what you are doing?
First of all, what we really want to do is take the Boogie Down Grind and create a sense of nostalgia in the same way that Cracker Barrel has. Or like the Hard Rock Café. They have one model, and they’re all over. They usually throw up a replica of a famous guitar and they serve the same menu everywhere.
We really want to build on Hip-Hop to reflect how it has evolved. I still want it to be called the Boogie Down Grind, but it’d be the Boogie Down Grind A-T-L or Philly. The inside would be representative of South Bronx roots and Hip Hop from that local community. We would work with any entrepreneur interested.
I’m a Christian, I take seriously that you love God and you love your neighbor. This is the manifestation of loving my neighbor. We don’t have to like everybody, but love is something very different. It shows, we’re here and I see you and this is about how we can grow together. If the pandemic has taught me anything, it is how deeply people need community.